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this stamp was made to mainly apply to frisk but i added chara too since i may as well have, age headcanons are fine for both of them
i see these two as adults and one of the many things that ticks me off about some UT fans is their inability to accept other people's headcanons if they stray away from what's most popular
jesus christ, chara and frisk don't have to be children ! if someone wants to headcanon them as a teen or an adult they can so let them have their fun and get off your pedestal.
it's called a headcanon for a reason and you cannot strip someone's opinion away from them. if someone wants to draw adult frisks and adult charas it's okay.
in fact, let's go over some things.
1. They have no actual canon age. Give me a number. You can't. Because there is no canon digit for Frisk or Chara's age. Anyone can interpret their age so if some people can see them as a 7 year old, some can see a 12 year old, why can't people see a fucking adult?
Some people say the kickstarter for Undertale before its initial release called Frisk/Chara "child that climbed the mountain", but that is completely irrelevant to Undertale's canon considering toby fox himself said the kickstarter DOES NOT COUNT as canon to Undertale (source), NEXT.
2. Frisk is ambiguous in every shape and form including race, personality, gender, facial features, voice, ETC. so I can't believe people can't accept the fact that Frisk is ambiguous in terms of age as well and people are allowed to have headcanons that stray from the child category.
3. Let's take a look at the canon art in the game.
the war against monsters art
These humans shown in the war against monsters are definitely adults.
Oh but look at Asgore's height compared to the humanS ( you can see a whole crowd, not just 1 person, so chances are that's an average person and not someone that's just short) in the art above.
Now look at how tall Frisk is in sprite-form next to Asgore.
pixel heights
Literally the exact same height difference as the adults in the canon artwork.
Maybe it's not a coincidence and maybe Frisk is older than people assume they are. Chara is also 2 pixels taller than Frisk.
4. Even if they are kids; kids grow up and become adults. You were once a kid too, your parents were once a kid too, and all these people grow up and mature and get on with life and get married and have their own kids. Let Frisk grow up as well.
5. THE CHILD OF A GOAT IS CALLED A "KID" - as you know Toriel "adopted" both Frisk and Chara. It can fully be a little joke, knowing Undertale.
you: oo boo but toriel calls them "my child"
...... so fucking what? I'm a legal adult in university and my mother sTILL calls me "little one" (except in my native tongue). Moms. Use. Endearing. Terms. For. Their. Kids. No matter the age. Toriel calls herself an "old lady" - we all know the joke that old women/grandmas call young men "son-y" and things like that. That's exactly what toriel does, because Frisk is younger than HER but it doesn't necessarily mean Frisk is only destined to be a child. "my child" is Toriel's endearing way to refer to Frisk, it doesn't have to be an age spectrum to go off of.
6. The only reason Frisk is 'mistaken' for a child is because in the Underground children wear striped shirts, which is stated in canon. Humans do not have this tradition. Frisk did not know. And to elaborate on this fact; Undertale is full of irony for the players sake. For example if you kill Toriel, Flowey knows and he says "It's not like you can go back or anything"; and when you're at the MTT resort with Sans he says "you haven't died once... That look on your face, am I wrong?" - These phrases are ironic. Because you CAN go back and you HAVE died before in-game. But the canons "don't know" that or pretend that they don't. Monster kid's phrase when pointing out the striped shirt thing sounds very similar. He says "Yo! You're a kid too, right? I can tell 'cause you're wearing a striped shirt." which is a hint at irony since majority of people who play Undertale are teens and adults and are not kids. Not to mention he asks if you're a kid, which means he is still uncertain but the striped shirt is throwing him off. This is further confirmed by his following line, "I wonder if that weird skeleton is an adult or a kid". Monster Kid can't tell ages apart at all, he can't tell if Papyrus is an adult or a child and yet everyone sees Papyrus as an adult. Would you really trust his input, then? Lol.
Thus Frisk being treated like a child can very well be irony simply due to how they're dressed - because, pointing back to #1- Frisk has no actual number for a canon age.
If you argue that in the UT universe all kids wear striped shirts, human or not, only because Chara was seen wearing one as well - Chara looks like Frisk all together, they have almost the exact same hairstyle, lighter skin, brown hair and all together share the same base sprite. They're meant to look similar, so of course them wearing similar clothing is part of this. Also, Chara just so happens to wear the same exact striped shirt as Asriel?? They wear those stripes because they were adopted by the Dreemurrs, and that was the clothing they gave their children (Chara&Asriel) so of course Chara is also in stripes. Stripes are a misunderstanding. The end.
BTW, Temmie is a canon Undertale character who goes/is ready to go to COLLEGE, has a job and still wears a striped shirt so ?????
7. Frisk understands romance in ways kids don't.
Frisk went on a date with Papyrus. The dialogue presented showed how Frisk had enough maturity to understand what was going on even if the date was just a joke! Surely Papyrus isn't a paedophile. Frisk was mature enough to understand the date, mature enough to flirt and act accordingly, etc. so they're probably a teen and up and understand romantic advances enough - something kids don't do.
Papyrus not enough for you? Don't forget Alphys ALSO KNOWINGLY went on a date with Frisk when she confused Undyne's letter for that of theirs ! She's a genius and still went on a date with a kid? Hm, I'm guessing she's not that dumb or gross so surely frisk can be waaay older than a child. bam.
Not enough? What about the battle with the two gay royal guards? Frisk made Guard2 TAKE OFF HIS SHIRT so the other guard has a response, which is arguably a sexual response. Whispering "be honest with your feelings" to Guard1 means they understood what a shirtless Guard2 did to them. Kids would not understand this. Frisk had to be mature to a degree to know what physical desire looks like < something a kid can't do.
there's even more but the description would get too long ; )
toby gives us so much room for interpretation so let people have fun!
free for use !
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Original art is actually by me
Template by kencho
Undertale belongs to Toby Fox
i see these two as adults and one of the many things that ticks me off about some UT fans is their inability to accept other people's headcanons if they stray away from what's most popular
jesus christ, chara and frisk don't have to be children ! if someone wants to headcanon them as a teen or an adult they can so let them have their fun and get off your pedestal.
it's called a headcanon for a reason and you cannot strip someone's opinion away from them. if someone wants to draw adult frisks and adult charas it's okay.
in fact, let's go over some things.
1. They have no actual canon age. Give me a number. You can't. Because there is no canon digit for Frisk or Chara's age. Anyone can interpret their age so if some people can see them as a 7 year old, some can see a 12 year old, why can't people see a fucking adult?
Some people say the kickstarter for Undertale before its initial release called Frisk/Chara "child that climbed the mountain", but that is completely irrelevant to Undertale's canon considering toby fox himself said the kickstarter DOES NOT COUNT as canon to Undertale (source), NEXT.
2. Frisk is ambiguous in every shape and form including race, personality, gender, facial features, voice, ETC. so I can't believe people can't accept the fact that Frisk is ambiguous in terms of age as well and people are allowed to have headcanons that stray from the child category.
3. Let's take a look at the canon art in the game.
the war against monsters art
These humans shown in the war against monsters are definitely adults.
Oh but look at Asgore's height compared to the humanS ( you can see a whole crowd, not just 1 person, so chances are that's an average person and not someone that's just short) in the art above.
Now look at how tall Frisk is in sprite-form next to Asgore.
pixel heights
Literally the exact same height difference as the adults in the canon artwork.
Maybe it's not a coincidence and maybe Frisk is older than people assume they are. Chara is also 2 pixels taller than Frisk.
4. Even if they are kids; kids grow up and become adults. You were once a kid too, your parents were once a kid too, and all these people grow up and mature and get on with life and get married and have their own kids. Let Frisk grow up as well.
5. THE CHILD OF A GOAT IS CALLED A "KID" - as you know Toriel "adopted" both Frisk and Chara. It can fully be a little joke, knowing Undertale.
you: oo boo but toriel calls them "my child"
...... so fucking what? I'm a legal adult in university and my mother sTILL calls me "little one" (except in my native tongue). Moms. Use. Endearing. Terms. For. Their. Kids. No matter the age. Toriel calls herself an "old lady" - we all know the joke that old women/grandmas call young men "son-y" and things like that. That's exactly what toriel does, because Frisk is younger than HER but it doesn't necessarily mean Frisk is only destined to be a child. "my child" is Toriel's endearing way to refer to Frisk, it doesn't have to be an age spectrum to go off of.
6. The only reason Frisk is 'mistaken' for a child is because in the Underground children wear striped shirts, which is stated in canon. Humans do not have this tradition. Frisk did not know. And to elaborate on this fact; Undertale is full of irony for the players sake. For example if you kill Toriel, Flowey knows and he says "It's not like you can go back or anything"; and when you're at the MTT resort with Sans he says "you haven't died once... That look on your face, am I wrong?" - These phrases are ironic. Because you CAN go back and you HAVE died before in-game. But the canons "don't know" that or pretend that they don't. Monster kid's phrase when pointing out the striped shirt thing sounds very similar. He says "Yo! You're a kid too, right? I can tell 'cause you're wearing a striped shirt." which is a hint at irony since majority of people who play Undertale are teens and adults and are not kids. Not to mention he asks if you're a kid, which means he is still uncertain but the striped shirt is throwing him off. This is further confirmed by his following line, "I wonder if that weird skeleton is an adult or a kid". Monster Kid can't tell ages apart at all, he can't tell if Papyrus is an adult or a child and yet everyone sees Papyrus as an adult. Would you really trust his input, then? Lol.
Thus Frisk being treated like a child can very well be irony simply due to how they're dressed - because, pointing back to #1- Frisk has no actual number for a canon age.
If you argue that in the UT universe all kids wear striped shirts, human or not, only because Chara was seen wearing one as well - Chara looks like Frisk all together, they have almost the exact same hairstyle, lighter skin, brown hair and all together share the same base sprite. They're meant to look similar, so of course them wearing similar clothing is part of this. Also, Chara just so happens to wear the same exact striped shirt as Asriel?? They wear those stripes because they were adopted by the Dreemurrs, and that was the clothing they gave their children (Chara&Asriel) so of course Chara is also in stripes. Stripes are a misunderstanding. The end.
BTW, Temmie is a canon Undertale character who goes/is ready to go to COLLEGE, has a job and still wears a striped shirt so ?????
7. Frisk understands romance in ways kids don't.
Frisk went on a date with Papyrus. The dialogue presented showed how Frisk had enough maturity to understand what was going on even if the date was just a joke! Surely Papyrus isn't a paedophile. Frisk was mature enough to understand the date, mature enough to flirt and act accordingly, etc. so they're probably a teen and up and understand romantic advances enough - something kids don't do.
Papyrus not enough for you? Don't forget Alphys ALSO KNOWINGLY went on a date with Frisk when she confused Undyne's letter for that of theirs ! She's a genius and still went on a date with a kid? Hm, I'm guessing she's not that dumb or gross so surely frisk can be waaay older than a child. bam.
Not enough? What about the battle with the two gay royal guards? Frisk made Guard2 TAKE OFF HIS SHIRT so the other guard has a response, which is arguably a sexual response. Whispering "be honest with your feelings" to Guard1 means they understood what a shirtless Guard2 did to them. Kids would not understand this. Frisk had to be mature to a degree to know what physical desire looks like < something a kid can't do.
there's even more but the description would get too long ; )
toby gives us so much room for interpretation so let people have fun!
free for use !
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Original art is actually by me
Template by kencho
Undertale belongs to Toby Fox
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